Owlmoose or some other FFX-2 expert, help!

[auronlu]

Ugh. X-2 drives me nuts. I have a question.



On Crimson Sphere Record 6 (link to the Crimson Squad webpage with .avis of all of 'em), Baralai says they saw not only an "apparition," which I assume is Shuyin, but also a giant machina, which sure sounds like Vegnagun.

Yet other flashbacks experienced by Yuna seem to show Shuyin breaking into Bevelle to try and steal Vegnagun. The platform where Lenne throws out her arms and the cage where he gets locked up look like places that YRP find when they're exploring the lower levels of Bevelle Palace.

So WHERE is Vegnagun?

If Baralai saw Vegnagun in the Den of Woe, was that true, or was he -- like Yuna with the Lenne flashbacks -- simply seeing through Shuyin's eyes something that happened elsewhere?

Or did Kinoc somehow manage to move Vegnagun from the Den of Woe to Bevelle without anyone noticing?

I'm hoping Vegnagun is under Bevelle, because that makes things easier for me, but this Crimson Record is tripping me up.
 

Comments

[shanaqui]

At least during the game, Vegnagun is under Bevelle. Also, it's under Bevelle when Shuyin tries to steal it. So, I assume in the Den of Woe they're only seeing Shuyin's memories.

[auronlu.livejournal.com]

Okay, I think I've got it, then.

Eeee.

It occurs to me that if that's so, Shuyin must have been taken from Bevelle and walled up in that cave to die. Otherwise, why would his ghost be lurking there?

[owlmoose.livejournal.com]

shanaqui is right: Vegnagun is never in the Den of Woe. It's under Bevelle until it escapes into the Farplane during Chapter 3 of X-2. Shuyin's memory of Vegnagun is what the guys (and then YRP, when they open up the Den after getting all the Crimson Spheres) see.

[thbogzdd.livejournal.com]

Vegnagun is under Bevelle. The room in the area "Limbo" under Bevelle and the room housing Vegnagun in the FMV are the same, and the platforms are identical. Vegnagun was what Baralai was defending in the Under Bevelle mission in chapter 2, and in the scene with Baralai, Gippal, and Nooj in Chapter 3 at the same place, Baralai refers to the site as where Vegnagun used to be.

Basically, they holed Shuyin up in that cave to die, as you say. He must've taken his memories with him and that was what Baralai was seeing.