Eureka.

Jul. 23rd, 2006 05:16 am
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I was writing a lengthy essay on the special appeal and qualities of Auron, Lulu, and the pair of them, after [livejournal.com profile] muggy_mountain challenged us on [livejournal.com profile] aulu.

I first noticed the similarities between Auron and Odysseus: wiley, well-respected fighters who nevertheless are a bit suspect in their unorthodoxy and sideways manner of doing things; also, Odysseus is astray for ten years after Troy.

There's a lot of Tenneyson's Ulysses in Auron (much as Babylon 5's Sinclair was Odysseus, and John Sheridan Telemachus).

But if Auron is the Odysseus archetype, then Lulu is Circe.


I had been seeing them as Orpheus and Eurydice (save that in this case, it's Eurydice who returns), but that's fun too!

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Date: 2006-07-23 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muggy-mountain.livejournal.com
*Trying to remember her brief mythology education*

And isn't Odysseus a lone survivor, or at least a rare survivor? Doesn't he try to stop his men from doing things like eating cursed pigs(?) and succumbing to temptation? Like Auron, isn't he the only one to cry fowl?
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Date: 2006-07-23 05:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] auronlu.livejournal.com
Yep, that too. He's the only one to make it home.
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Cry fowl.

Date: 2006-07-23 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muggy-mountain.livejournal.com
Haha, I just realized my typo when I got the response alert in my inbox, and now I'm imagining Auron in a game of duck, duck, grey duck. Or as the rest of the world except my state says it, duck, duck goose.
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Date: 2006-07-24 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justira.livejournal.com
Wow, I'm sorry I keep commenting on entries just to get your attention, but it's the most reliable way to reach you.

I did get your email and sent a response, but I haven't heard back, so maybe something happened to it?

Well, in either case, I finished my crit a while ago and since I hadn't heard back from you yet I went ahead and posted it to my journal, locked to you. It LOOKS very long and intimidating, I'm sorry! But most of that is me spewing anatomical facts. The actual number of corrections is not large. Thank you for letting me take a look at it, and I hope you find my input helpful.
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Date: 2006-07-24 09:24 am (UTC)
shanaqui: River from Firefly. ((RaijinFujin) At your side)
From: [personal profile] shanaqui
You know, I saw that title on the [livejournal.com profile] ff_press page and thought "hm", and you know, there is certainly a lot of Circe in Lulu and I see what you mean about Auron.

*represses plotbunnies*
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Date: 2006-07-24 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wikibird.livejournal.com
>> I love strong, fierce, dangerous, intelligent, mature, professional, self-sufficient female characters who can not only handle themselves with expertise and wisdom, but also protect and guide others.

I'll second and third that statement! :>

They sound like wonderful characters, individually and together.


(Mmmmn, archetype.)

(Also, hi! I am eljayed again.)

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